NYT says gun buyers more likely to shoot themselves than non gun buyers

Syntyr · Post by **Syntyr** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:13 pm

Well Shazaam!

I think The NY Times might be on to something here. Never any better time to push the gun control agenda!

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Pawpaw · Post by **Pawpaw** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:01 am

It's pretty hard to shoot yourself if you don't have a gun.

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Beiruty · Post by **Beiruty** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:16 am

So, we have 400,000,000 firearms in US. How many should have died by now?

Boxerrider · Post by **Boxerrider** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:26 am

How likely is it for somebody who stole a gun to be shot by somebody else who stole a gun?

parabelum · Post by **parabelum** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:54 am

I’d love to see the math behind it

In other news, study finds that liberal voters are on average nine times as likely to cause a terrorist act then a conservative voter.

See, I can come up with stuff too, mine may be closer to truth though

RPBrown · Post by **RPBrown** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:57 am

OMG, I guess I will have to give my 1st purchased gun back. Oops, I am doomed. I no longer have my 1st purchased gun.

ScottDLS · Post by **ScottDLS** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:02 am

"A study of 700,000 first-time handgun buyers found that, on average, they were were nine times as likely to later deliberately shoot themselves than non-buyers were https://nyti.ms/2Mt4DRW".

Well I think the key word is "deliberately". I think you are much more likely to deliberately shoot yourself with a gun....if you have a gun. As mentioned...water is wet.

Middle Age Russ · Post by **Middle Age Russ** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:05 am

"Deliberately shoot themselves". This is playing the suicide card against firearms availability and ownership. Seems to me that criminals who want to commit violent crime and folks that have suicidal thoughts (suicide=homicide=illegal) are not entirely stupid -- they see firearms as an appropriate tool for their intended use. I can argue against their intended use, but I can't disagree with their tool assessment. Their bad decisions that drive them to firearms use should not be a factor driving public policy for law-abiding citizens.

SQLGeek · Post by **SQLGeek** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:05 am

RPBrown wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:57 am OMG, I guess I will have to give my 1st purchased gun back. Oops, I am doomed. I no longer have my 1st purchased gun.

I no longer have the first handgun I purchased so I am safe already. I look down on you unsafe plebeians.

The Annoyed Man · Post by **The Annoyed Man** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:18 am

RPBrown wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:57 am OMG, I guess I will have to give my 1st purchased gun back. Oops, I am doomed. I no longer have my 1st purchased gun.

Did you lose it in a tragic boating accident?

Paladin · Post by **Paladin** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:37 am

NYT is truly proving itself the foremost authoritarian promoting propaganda rag in America

parabelum · Post by **parabelum** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:49 am

People who commit suicide should be arrested and put to trial, study finds...

The Annoyed Man · Post by **The Annoyed Man** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:52 am

In other news, people who own cars are about 100 times more likely to die in car accidents than people who don’t.

srothstein · Post by **srothstein** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:56 am

I am sure you all know better, and it sure is amusing to poke fun at the NY Times (one of the worst papers in my opinion), but there are non gun buyers who use guns to commit suicide. You don't have to buy a gun to get one. You could use a friend's or family members. You could steal one. And there have been a few documented cases where someone rented a gun at a gun range just to commit suicide with it.

For this to be useful science, the question that needs to be asked is what the time delay is and what the real numbers (not statistical percentages) are. Of first time gun buyers, how many did commit suicide with the gun in the first week, month, year, etc.? In other words, how many people go out and buy a gun just to commit suicide with it? Then they would need to show where the others got the gun too.

I am sure we could not do anything to stop it, but how often does it happen, and how soon after buying the gun. If we found a significant number did it within 24 hours after buying the gun, it might actually lend supprot to the idea of a waiting period. I still am against that, but I would like to see some scientific research into it.

Beiruty · Post by **Beiruty** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:57 am

parabelum wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:49 am People who commit suicide should be arrested and put to trial, study finds...

Best quote this week, this month and this year. Keep them coming.

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