jimlongley wrote:03Lightningrocks wrote:marksiwel wrote:
The Sign is incorrect in some way but no one wants to test it
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Some says "Concealed Means Concealed" implying they should just carry anyway
Then there are those who feel the need to call up the folks with signs that don't count and risk having them correct the situation by giving them lessons on how to properly deny me my right to carry. If the sign is not a 30:06 sign, my assumption is always that they don't want to forbid licensed carry. They are wanting to forbid armed robbers from bringing a gun to the robbery. I see no need to ask them if I am correct as the law already says I am.
And that would be me, because my feeling is that, just as one of our members recently experienced, even if they have the wrong signage or just plain don't know the law, you are likely to take the ride.
Let them know that their sign is wrong, and that you will most likely beat the charge, and that you will also hold them responsible. And also let them know what the compliant sign is, and the fact that it is about 2' by 3' and really ugly.
Let them know that they are only denying law abiding citizens access because criminals won't care what signs are posted, and that you will be influencing others to boycott their business as much as is in their power.
If they repost, all well and good, they don't want your business and they have proved it, and there is no place that posts that can't be replaced. If they don't repost, and you get made, and you wind up taking the ride, the basis for your civil suit is the hard copy letter, registered, return receipt, notifying them that their sign does not comply with Texas law and stating what the law is.
Even in all this you and I have grounds for agreement. If the sign we are talking about is a 30:06 sign that is improperly posted, I can understand why you would want to crusade to get the sign changed. I am one of those folks who doesn't carry a tape measure, so I have no way of judging letter spacing or other details. I also don't carry around a copy of the exact proper wording, so if a few words are wrong, I would never know it. How I handle this is simple, I see a 30:06 sign and I assume I am not welcomed, regardless of the technicalities involved.
On the other hand, if I see a gun busters sign, I assume the place is simply trying to appease the masses. Maybe they just posted the sign because it was in the package of signs they received when they opened shop and it looked cool. What ever the reason, I see no reason to complain about the way the coffee tastes if I am not drinking the coffee.
I think we are off topic...LOL.