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by pdubyoo
Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:46 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Almost had to draw last night
Replies: 75
Views: 8858

Re: Almost had to draw last night

Excaliber wrote:This is one of the most difficult tactical situations I have seen on this Forum, and, in agreement with Steve, 03Lightningrocks, and others, I can't say enough good things about how Kythas handled it to achieve the best possible result.

While the rest of us have all Monday morning to suggest some refinements around the edges, the fact is that Kythas successfully kept the subject from harming himself or those he was with, everyone went home without battle damage, and he is not in jail, out on bail, or having to thread his way through satellite news trucks to get into his driveway. Not only did he do the right things, but he was able to think of them and execute them under the stress of a real life encounter and in the very short time period available to him. Even those of us with extensive law enforcement backgrounds had to think long and hard about this one, and I have met very few people without lots of prior experience in dealing with street bandits who could have done nearly as well.
:iagree:
The decision to use deadly force should be one of the most difficult decisions one has to make in life, and I hope none of us are ever in a situation where we need to make that call. It's a heavy responsibility we carry as CHL's. But it almost sounds as if there are some among us that are eager to use deadly force. :confused5 That is disturbing.
by pdubyoo
Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:57 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Almost had to draw last night
Replies: 75
Views: 8858

Re: Almost had to draw last night

C-dub wrote:I don't think an LEO would shoot unless there were another weapon visible. I think an LEO would have sprayed him if he continued to advance after the LEO identified him or herself and being ordered to submit.
You could be right, but the LEOs that I know don't carry spray or taser when they're off duty. They only carry their sidearm. In that case, run watcha brung, as they say at the drag strip. I'll pass along the OP to a couple of them, and get their feedback as to what they would likely have done.
by pdubyoo
Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:42 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Almost had to draw last night
Replies: 75
Views: 8858

Re: Almost had to draw last night

Kythas,

Thanks for posting your story. My heart rate was elevated just reading it. I'm glad things worked-out for you and the ladies, to get out of the area safely.

It's easy to second-guess ourselves after a situation like that. I'm not sure how I would have reacted. Your situation sure gives me a lot of real-life food for thought. I will be talking with my wife about your experience, and also about some of the advice from Excalibur and others, and we'll be re-thinking our plan.

As Proverbs 27:17 says, "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another". This verse can be applied in so many areas of our lives.

-PW

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