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tallmike wrote:No, it is not a 2 man race. That is a silly thing to say.

Really?
We have
1 - Obama
2 - Romney
3 = ?
If you are meaning there will be independents in the race, sure there will be, but do they stand any bit of a chance, and as always, the 3rd parties ALWAYS pull votes from one of the 2 above.

So why is it a silly thing to say?

G26ster wrote: but I think you missed the sarcasm

hmmm, could be, its hard to go from a "real' debate to "sarcasm" and see it!

Slowplay wrote:I'm calling for Mitt Romney to start by releasing his college records!

Obama never released his, so how are you going to compare the two?

You cannot ask one to do it, when the other will not.

I am 100% sure MItt would also release his Birth Certificate!

2firfun50 wrote:he loses his powerful seat in the house. He now becomes a non factor after the election if Romney wins

Well, the republicans already have the house and unless something changes in November, that will remain.

He gains an actually bigger seat in the senate as the VP is over the Senate, so if the Senate actually goes 50/50 this year, he has the deciding vote.
ETA: I am thinking back 25 years to school, I hope my memory is right about the deciding vote

2firfun50 wrote:'m tired of paying 23% while those living off investments are paying 15%.

You are paying 23% on money you earned working.
They are paying 15% on money they invested and were on the right side of the investment.

There are 2 things to consider:
1 - they already paid their 23% on money they earned, then they took that earned (and taxed money) and invested it, and paid another 15% on earnings there, so they are essentially DOUBLE TAXED.
2 - they are [only] paying 15% on investment gains, but how much did they actually lose on their other investments?
So in the end, how much are they really paying out?
23% originally
15% on earnings
??? of losses?

you mentioned 3+trillion for SS, and 2+trillion for Federal Reserve. That is 5+ trillion total.
When Obama took office we were 5trillion in deficit, now we are 15 trillion. Does it seem that the Dems, behind Obama can decrease the deficit? maybe not!

SSN, Medicare and Medicade, as long as people ACTUALLY paid in, I agree they should still get it.
Personally, i KNOW when I [hopefully can] retire in 22 years, there will be ZERO SS for me and yet, I KNOW I will still be paying into it for the next however many years until I can retire.

There is a lot wrong with the government, but the question you need to ask, is who will do a better job of fixing it (or not making worse the quickest as you want to dwell on the negative).
The numbers don't lie, Obama racked up 10+ trillion deficit in not even 4 years, and as soon as Obama-care takes full effect, add another trillion or more on that date.

The Annoyed Man wrote:Roy for president!

TAM For President (or VP behind Roy)