SOME PEOPLE AMAZE ME

[frazzled]

Er what?

[LarryH]

Actually Mr. Cotton, I didn’t violate any rules because my abbreviation wasn’t meant to be profane. it is a common abbreviation.

I just googled the abbreviation and the meaning certainly violates the rule. "Common" does not equal "OK".

Next?

[Purplehood]

You are off to a great start.
At this point, I don't like your attitude one little bit.
Chas.

Actually Mr. Cotton, I didn’t violate any rules because my abbreviation wasn’t meant to be profane. it is a common abbreviation. Your entire post is full of contradictions. All I did was comment on my thoughts of the CHL processing activity. If you don’t like it, that’s ok, but don’t attack me personally. You don’t like my attitude? Why? It doesn’t agree with yours? That’s a poor excuse. I actually like your attitude because you are trying to prove your point. You should like mine because it gives you the forum to describe all the reasons why people are doing what they are doing to dispute my comments.

You indicated "You are factually incorrect in your complaint about bothering the DPS", I dont get what you meant by factually incorrect, what "fact" was incorrect. Doesn’t make sense to me. My comment has nothing to do with what is going on in the department, only that I did not agree with calling over and over and over...

I didn’t ignore the statutory requirement, wasn't my point. You have an issue call them or sue them. My comments were intended for those that over did it and did not have a good reason. Go back and read my comments and not the replies of others.

I wasn’t aware of the history you mentioned, but excuse me for first researching that before i believe a forum poster. I am sure it is true though and there are valid reasons to push hard on the CHL processing times to get better turnaround. I believe that. That said, I don’t need to educate myself on fist pounding because I stand behind my comments on those who choose to unnecessarily waste time only furthering their own agenda. Sorry, its my feelings so don’t attack me for it. Read the words "unnecessarily", (which is for some unknown reason I have been construed to disagree with everyone's complaints).

I can't figure out a profane or commonly -used meaning for the acronym. I feel like a lesser-man because of it.

[shh83]

Boom, cant you tell you are obviously the minority in these forums. I have only been a member for a few months and before that I read through the forums for several months. I have never come across any single person that was not helpful and courteous. Yes, there are a ton of differing opinions, and that is great! The one thing that I think I can safely say is that most of us are here for the interest we have invested to the state of Texas and our right to concealed carry. If you are not excited and anxious to get yours, why did you even bother?

In fact, the next time I call DPS (you know, that thing you love so much) I am going to ask if they will kindly place your application at the bottom of the stack, EVERYDAY. What is your name??

Mr. Cotton…Thank you again for this very insightful forum…nobody is going to miss anything if hit delete!!!

Scott

[tfrazier]

I can't figure out a profane or commonly -used meaning for the acronym. I feel like a lesser-man because of it.

You probably missed seeing the "pre-moderated" version and are searching on the cleaned acronym...

[Boom]

Actually Mr. Cotton, I didn’t violate any rules because my abbreviation wasn’t meant to be profane. it is a common abbreviation.

I just googled the abbreviation and the meaning certainly violates the rule. "Common" does not equal "OK".

Next?

OK, it was fixed, I am sorry, When I wrote it I wasnt thinking anything to do with profanity. but a good job in using argumentative deflection and causing an immediate (although trivial) negative reaction to the poster in his opening sentence. touche.

[Keith B]

Can someone on this forum tell me how many CHL permits are granted/denied in Texas in a Years time?

Here is a link to the DPS site with the demographics http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... aphics.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Keith B]

OK folks. Everyone needs to be civil in this thread, and that means EVERYONE. Flaming, personal attacks and trolling will cease or it will be locked.

[frazzled]

Actually Mr. Cotton, I didn’t violate any rules because my abbreviation wasn’t meant to be profane. it is a common abbreviation.

I just googled the abbreviation and the meaning certainly violates the rule. "Common" does not equal "OK".

Next?

OK, it was fixed, I am sorry, When I wrote it I wasnt thinking anything to do with profanity. but a good job in using argumentative deflection and causing an immediate (although trivial) negative reaction to the poster in his opening sentence. touche.

Its not personal. The moderators are sticklers on this board for no profanity, acronyms therein, or even some common negative words. I've been zapped twice. It helps keep us turkeys in line.

[Boom]

Boom, cant you tell you are obviously the minority in these forums. I have only been a member for a few months and before that I read through the forums for several months. I have never come across any single person that was not helpful and courteous. Yes, there are a ton of differing opinions, and that is great! The one thing that I think I can safely say is that most of us are here for the interest we have invested to the state of Texas and our right to concealed carry. If you are not excited and anxious to get yours, why did you even bother?

In fact, the next time I call DPS (you know, that thing you love so much) I am going to ask if they will kindly place your application at the bottom of the stack, EVERYDAY. What is your name??
Mr. Cotton…Thank you again for this very insightful forum…nobody is going to miss anything if hit delete!!!

Scott

Obviously.... I presume that making a comment about the excess of a few individuals, I now have learned that I am not excited, I am telling people about their gun rights, I am not anxious, I am factually incorrect, I dont want my application approved soon, and on and on.

Seriously, this is crazy.... This is exactly the same response we get from anti-gunners... they take a simple action, then twist it and turn it into something totally different. WOW, .... "Just delete those posts that dont think like you do"... "what is your name".... is this what we have become? I am sorry I ever posted...

[shh83]

I am sorry I ever posted...

we all are sorry you posted

Scott

[tfrazier]

Boom,
I take it you are trying to make the point that some people are extremists and make the CHL community look bad when they call the bureaucrats and go on rants too soon and too often, right? I'm sure that there may be a few out there, but your point was presented in a way that made it appear (IMO) that you were broad-washing all of us as impatient kooks and ignoring completely the issues that exists with the bureaucracy.

Most of the folks making the calls have very relevant and necessary information and/or complaints, I believe.

I'd hate to see someone get ostracized over an initial hastily posted rant if they really want to be part of this community and participate in its growth and progress. You might want to bow out and re-register under another ID to make a fresh start after re-acquainting yourself with the forum rules and mission...unless you'd rather admit you were a little over-aggressive and have reconsidered.

Just my clumsy attempt at tossing an olive branch to the new guy...

[Aggie_engr]

What did you really expect when you came onto a forum called Texaschlforum.com and disenfranchised the majority of its members?

[jimlongley]

Simply put, I don’t understand contacting your congressman after 61 days in hopes to get assistance with CHL processing. I want that type of attitude over topics that may be more impacting instead of just one person’s CHL grievance.

But it's not just one person, 61 days is against the law, and the only way we will get DPS to obey the law is to keep complaining until our legislators take note and do something about it.

[Boom]

Boom,
I take it you are trying to make the point that some people are extremists and make the CHL community look bad when they call the bureaucrats and go on rants too soon and too often, right? I'm sure that there may be a few out there, but your point was presented in a way that made it appear (IMO) that you were broad-washing all of us as impatient kooks and ignoring completely the issues that exists with the bureaucracy.

Most of the folks making the calls have very relevant and necessary information and/or complaints, I believe.

I'd hate to see someone get ostracized over an initial hastily posted rant if they really want to be part of this community and participate in its growth and progress. You might want to bow out and re-register under another ID to make a fresh start after re-acquainting yourself with the forum rules and mission...unless you'd rather admit you were a little over-aggressive and have reconsidered.

Just my clumsy attempt at tossing an olive branch to the new guy...

Thanks. You are right, I do want my CHL, I am an NRA member, I do not like governemnt waste, I do think they botch things up and I can go on and on. And it may have been a hasty rant because it hit a personal soft spot. I thought I explained that but didnt think i would get slammed so bad... I guess when the moderator goes after you,,, you didnt do something right. I wont back off my name, thats cowardly thing to do, so I plan on focusing on what I can do to support instead of inflame...