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bpet wrote:Now I'm surprised again. I appreciate the response from Mr. Dennis and am encouraged by his support for CHL's but I don't understand how the Parker police have any authority to put up 30.06 sinage without approval from the event organizers.

Am I missing something here?
Ditto. Since when does law enforcement have the authority to post a 30.06 sign anywhere, let alone at an event in which the event promoters don't want the signs there? As far as I know, the ranch is privately owned, I believe by someone named Rex Maughan; and wouldn't the determination whether or not to post be legally up to the party that is renting the property from Maughan?
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Someone indicated offline that the Ranch my have some sort of status as a National park.
If so, 30.06 would still be inappropriate.

I'm almost as concerned at the possibility that a local police dept. owns portable 30.06 signs.
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Rex B wrote:Someone indicated offline that the Ranch my have some sort of status as a National park.
If so, 30.06 would still be inappropriate.
The ranch is operated by Forever Resorts. On the ranch website, the following is stated at the bottom of at least one page:
Forever Resorts is an authorized concessioner of the National Park Service and operates under special permits with state agencies, the Don Pedro Recreation Agency and the USDA Forest Service. Forever Resorts is a committed Equal Employment Opportunity Service Provider.
However, it doesn't say that the ranch itself is a national park, and I can't seem to find any info about that anywhere. I sent Forever Resorts a contact message asking them directly if the ranch is a national park. If they get back to me, I'll post their answer here.
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Followup:

THIS PAGE says:
History of Southfork
History at Southfork began in 1978, when Lorimar Productions chose the North Texas showplace as the site for the CBS-TV series "Dallas". The hit series, which counted millions of viewers across the United States and in 95 foreign countries as fans, was originally broadcast in the United States from 1978 to 1991. The series continues to be broadcast in syndication and still is in first-run status in many countries around the world. Because of the ranch's high profile on television, the beautiful white mansion, the pool, the barns and surroundings quickly became a tourist mecca.

The original owner of the ranch and his family were actually in residence at Southfork as the filming began. When requests for private parties began to pour in, tents were erected and a small party pavilion was built to accommodate these types of events. However, tourism finally took its toll on the family, as it became increasingly hard to live privately in what had become Dallas' leading visitor attraction.

In 1985, Southfork became strictly a tourist attraction and event location. The mansion was opened to the public for the first time. A 63,000 square foot conference and event center was built to accommodate several thousand people for special events and functions. A rodeo arena, which was originally constructed for the filming of "Dallas" rodeos, began to host open competition rodeos as well as private "showdeos."

In June of 1992, Mr. Rex Maughan, a successful Arizona businessman with extensive company operations in Texas, purchased the ranch. Mr. Maughan was a client of Southfork's, hosting events several times a year for business associates from around the world. Since Mr. Maughan's purchase, business has continued to dramatically grow. Tourists are still attracted to the nostalgia of "Dallas" and Southfork's unique facilities have created an internationally respected conference and event center for meeting planners. Over $14,000,000 in capital improvements have been completed, proof that history is still unfolding at the "world's most famous ranch."

History of "Dallas"
Never envisioned to be the winner it became, "Dallas" was initially scripted as a non-continuing five-part drama. Airing for the first time on April 2, 1978, it ran for five consecutive Sunday nights. Ratings climbed weekly. By the fifth episode, it ranked in the top ten of the week's most watched shows.

On the basis of these impressive numbers, CBS approved thirteen additional scripts and "Season One" officially began the next full season. "Dallas" success continued, with the show airing for 13 seasons until May of 1991. By this time, the series included 356 episodes and had become the most watched series in the world, and had spawned a successful spin-off series in Knots Landing.

In 1995 and 1997, "Dallas" original cast members including Larry Hagman, Linda Gray, and Patrick Duffy returned to Southfork to film two reunion movies. The first reunion movie, "JR Returns," aired in 1996, and the reunion sequel, "The War of the Ewings," aired in 1998.

Though final details are still pending, the recent announcement of a full-length feature film based upon the "Dallas" series proves that the "Dallas" saga continues today.
Yep, it is privately owned, so there are at least four possibilities:

1. The event organizers posted the signs, but they say they didn't.

2. Forever Resorts, as the property managers, posted the sign; but they aren't saying.

4. The police posted the signs, but they don't have the legal authority.

5. Rex Maughan posted the signs, but if he did, he didn't tell anybody else about it, and he should have at least notified the even organizers.
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I'm not impressed with the "Southfork" organization.

They hosed up the "Dallas" reunion get together and they messed up this gig.

Don't think I'll be spending any dollars at their facility anytime in the near future. Maybe when they figure out how to manage something I will change my mind (but I don't think so).
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Rex B wrote:The signs were stuck in the grass in front of the main entrance tent, immediately at the South end of the 3 permanent "barns"
I think there were a total of 6, 3 copies in English, 3 in Spanish, black on white.
Separate copies in either language? Doesn't sound legit to me. The sign has to be in English and Spanish. Not separate signage.
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It's pretty common to split them.
I'm not going to bet my liberty on that point.
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Got this today from the organizer:

" As a gun owner, I was as angry as anyone at the fact that the property owner (not us) put up the "no guns" signs at the entrance to our event.
That was a decision made by the property owner, and we didn't have much control over that.
Although we can't do anything about the past, we can work to ensure that this doesn't happen at future events.
Thank you and best regards,
- Ken Emanuelson"


It appears Mr. Maughm is the bad guy.
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