Austin PD chief - don't make us arrest illegals

[RPB]

The House is funny today


Author: All this bill does, is allow officers to during a normal criminal investigation where a crime already occurred, to ask questions, just like he asks for proof of insurance at a traffic stop after seeing an offense being committed, there's nothing requiring officers to ask for insurance or immigration status; it's up to the officer if he decides to ask, nothing requires it, it allows the officer to investigate. Arizona required officers to ask; this bill doesn't require officers to do anything, but allows them to investigate crimes.

Opponent: But you'll have untrained officers doing that with no Federal training , there'll be increased costs to train all departments

Author: How much training does it take to ask for proof of insurance?

[Hoosier Daddy]

HB 12 does not concern drug or human traffickers or other hardened criminals. Instead, it affects law-abiding, productive members of the community who, outside of their immigration status, are under-represented in crime statistics.

Serial killers are generally productive members of society. From what I can find online, outside of their niche, they're also under-represented in crime statistics.

[speedsix]

HB 12 does not concern drug or human traffickers or other hardened criminals. Instead, it affects law-abiding, productive members of the community who, outside of their immigration status, are under-represented in crime statistics.

Serial killers are generally productive members of society. From what I can find online, outside of their niche, they're also under-represented in crime statistics.

...exactly!!! and a LOT of illegals are also wanted criminals in Mexico...come to America to build gangs and do what they got chased out of Mexico for doing...they aren't nice little smiley guys with big sombreros who just want to do yard work and send some money home to their children...but our politicians don't want to lose votes, so they won't admit that...

[danpaw]

Charles Manson is simply "misunderstood".

[lonewolf]

Isn't arresting law breakers their job? What about just firing they guy for failing to perform his duties as an officer. If he or one of his officers pulls someone over for speeding and determines that they are in this country illegally aren't they aiding and abetting by letting them go? Figure the odds of the illegal showing up in court or paying the ticket.....

If I go to work and tell my boss I'm not going to do my job, I would be fired.

I've heard it said that not all illegal immigrants are criminals. Excuse me? What part of "illegal" immigrant is legal?

I can barely afford my own healthcare, much less theirs. I have to get my car registered, insured, pay all income taxes, etc, etc.....and I certainly wouldn't consider entering their country illegally, because IT'S A CRIME....

My apologies for the rant, but if they want to live and work here fine. Go through the immigration process. Do the paperwork. Dot the I's and cross the t's, then follow the yellow brick road.

If you want to be treated humanely and respectfully, then follow the rules. Otherwise there should be a humanely air conditioned bus, with meals and sanitation facilities provided, heading south on a regular basis.

All of this, of course, can be done within the confines of the Constitution, which requires due process and equal consideration under the laws of the land. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that anyone can be treated any differently. Arrest them, try them in a court of law, convict them and deport them.

[speedsix]

...our gooberment, which gives billions to nations like Pakistan, says they don't have the money enough to do that...nor the manpower...though they have no trouble hiring for anything else...it's not about our country, or our rights, or due process...it's about politicians who're afraid to alienate huge blocks of Hispanic votes...and they WON'T do it...(hey, they aren't doing THEIR jobs, either)...let's fire THEM...in 2012!!!

[The Annoyed Man]

Nope - theyre appointed by city council/mayor/city manager. You don't want city PD gettin political, IMO.

If you don't think that's a political appointment, you're fooling yourself.

I lived in L.A. County back when TWO different police chiefs were imported from other, very liberal, big cities—Chief Williams, formerly of Philadelphia PD; and Chief Bratton, formerly of the NYPD. Williams couldn't even pass the LAPD range qualification, after several attempts, so he could carry a gun. He was finally issued a RARE concealed carry permit by the county Sheriff. Those were both political patronage appointments.

You're right.... I don't want a city PD getting political. But when appointments to the office of chief are political patronage.... well, the PD is getting political. And those kinds of appointments tend to be accountable only to the people who appoint them. At least an elected Sheriff is accountable to the voters who pay his/her salary.

I'm not saying that's ideal either, but both ways of achieving the office are political, and it becomes a matter of whom the office holder is accountable to.