Italian Chiappa Guns with RFID chips

[Medic624]

Hmmm...heres a TIN FOIL HAT spin...

So they use this as a means to start the process but its a stepping stone to get to where the weapon can only be used if you have the corresponding matched encoded bracelet and once that bracelet and internal chip are in a very close proximity then and only then will the firing pin become active allowing the weapon to fire.

The said bracelet has all of your personal info and thus when the weapon is fired it timestamps who, when and how many rounds.

HA ha ha ha...

seriously though, this is a European Company pandering to a European unsavory view of guns by offering a means to "track" a weapon in a market that is openly hostile to legal gun ownership... It seems to me theyre trying to appease the Left radical anti's with the hopes of minimal backlash from the legal gun owners.

Obviously they dont know theyre end market consumer (in the U.S.)...

[PBratton]

So, I could buy a portable encoder and zap everyone's gun with MY ID info, then tell the nearest cop that you have my gun...

I may start liking this technology!

[MoJo]

Good luck with that. I don't necessarily see the elimination of a gun manufacturer as a positive thing for the gun industry. I don't think the antis would either.

What was the issue with S&W? Link?

You young 'uns! Don't have an idea of what went on in firearms history.

from Wikipidia:

Agreement of 2000

In March 2000 Smith & Wesson signed an agreement with the Clinton Administration in order to avoid lawsuits.[4] The company agreed to numerous safety and design standards, as well as limits on the sale and distribution of their products. Gun clubs and gun rights groups responded to this agreement by initiating large-scale boycotts of Smith & Wesson by refusing to buy their new products and flooding the firearms market with used S&W guns.[5][6][4] After a 40% sales slide,[7] the sales impact from the boycotts lead Smith and Wesson to suspend manufacturing at two plants.[8] The success of the boycott led to a Federal Trade Commission anti-trust investigation being initiated under the Clinton administration,[6] targeting gun dealers and gun rights groups, which was subsequently dropped in 2003.[9] This agreement signed by Tomkins PLC ended with the sale of Smith and Wesson to the Saf-T-Hammer Corporation. The new company (Smith and Wesson Holding Corporation), which publicly renounced the agreement, was received positively by the firearms community.[10]

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_ ... nt_of_2000" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Those who don't learn from history - - -

[OldCurlyWolf]

Don't know where they're embedding it, but if the part is plastic, a few seconds in the microwave will permanently "erase" the chip.
(And by "erase" I mean burn it out.)

Won't a strong magnetic field also do a number on one, besides erasing all information recorded thereon?

[Mike1951]

[9] This agreement signed by Tomkins PLC ended with the sale of Smith and Wesson to the Saf-T-Hammer Corporation. The new company (Smith and Wesson Holding Corporation), which publicly renounced the agreement, was received positively by the firearms community.[10]

There are legions that would dispute how positively the new company was received. The distaste, even outright hatred, for the gun locks is widespread. But when a gun lock company bought S&W, no one should have been surprised to see them incorporate their lock technology into future firearm production.

This decision may be more detrimental than the Clinton agreement.

[sjfcontrol]

Don't know where they're embedding it, but if the part is plastic, a few seconds in the microwave will permanently "erase" the chip.
(And by "erase" I mean burn it out.)

Won't a strong magnetic field also do a number on one, besides erasing all information recorded thereon?

I believe the units used to disable the RFID tag in a store uses a strong (alternating) electromagnetic field, and the readers use a similar but weaker field to power the chip. A strong magnet, however, would likely do nothing (unless you could wave it very rapidly over the tag )

[7075-T7]

Don't know where they're embedding it, but if the part is plastic, a few seconds in the microwave will permanently "erase" the chip.
(And by "erase" I mean burn it out.)

Won't a strong magnetic field also do a number on one, besides erasing all information recorded thereon?

I believe the units used to disable the RFID tag in a store uses a strong (alternating) electromagnetic field, and the readers use a similar but weaker field to power the chip. A strong magnet, however, would likely do nothing (unless you could wave it very rapidly over the tag )

I bet ya this one would do a number on the RFID chips. http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.a ... 52&cat=168" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Any magnet with a warning like "they can pinch, crush, or otherwise cause extreme physical harm" has gotta be good

[sjfcontrol]

Don't know where they're embedding it, but if the part is plastic, a few seconds in the microwave will permanently "erase" the chip.
(And by "erase" I mean burn it out.)

Won't a strong magnetic field also do a number on one, besides erasing all information recorded thereon?

I believe the units used to disable the RFID tag in a store uses a strong (alternating) electromagnetic field, and the readers use a similar but weaker field to power the chip. A strong magnet, however, would likely do nothing (unless you could wave it very rapidly over the tag )

I bet ya this one would do a number on the RFID chips. http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.a ... 52&cat=168" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Any magnet with a warning like "they can pinch, crush, or otherwise cause extreme physical harm" has gotta be good

I bet you it wouldn't -- unless it ripped the chip right out of the gun. It is a changing/alternating radio-frequency (RF) magnetic field that causes current to flow. (Unless, as I said, you can wave the magnet very quickly!)

Some of the strongest magnets I've ever seen are in hard drives. Try taking a crashed drive apart and examine the magnets surrounding the voice-coil head positioner. Pinch is hardly the word for it. You have to pry them apart with a screwdriver. AND you don't have to pay a couple of grand for a pair of them, either.

[RPB]

Ok I'll solve the mystery:



If we knew where to get some Lead, we could shield that kryptonite ...



or



Simply leave the RFID chip in the RFID Salsa a long time.... I like the green, but lots of people prefer the red.