I don't agree. Keep in mind that as Texas CHLers, we enjoy and appreciate our ability to legally defend ourselves. I believe the state of Texas is doing a good thing for 2A with the unilateral recognition. The more legally armed people in Texas, the safer Texas will be. Texas cannot control the other states mindset. But will stand up for visitors from those states to Texas. Plus. I think there is a little thumbing of the nose involved. Right on, then!!! Kinda like "who's the bigger man"??Ameer wrote:I think the unilateral proclamations should be in effect for only one year. During that time Texas should try to negotiate reciprocity with the other state. If they cooperate, the citizens of both states benefit from the reciprocal agreement. However, if they don't cooperate, we should drop the unilateral recognition after the year is over. Quid pro quo.
Texas CHL Reciprocity: A Different Perspective
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Kimber Ultra Carry I .45ACP
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Long guns.
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Re: Texas CHL Reciprocity: A Different Perspective
Oldgringo wrote:Quite frankly, I'm more concerned with what states that don't recognize my Texas CHL. I'm concerned to the extent that we won't visit those states and spend our tourist dollars or offer our volunteer services.
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Re: Texas CHL Reciprocity: A Different Perspective
New Hampshire Permit to Carry
The N.H. Permit resident is easy to get
pay about $20.00 for a background check
Turn in application and fee to town hall or local police dept
Prmit usually issued in a week from applying
no finger prints
no training required
Can get permit even if you have never fired a gun before
no pictures
License good for four years
Most New hampshire LEO don't like people that carry
LEO will harass you for carry with permit
Texas won't recognise N.H. permit because of no traning requirement and no picture
N.H. Permit is good in about 16 states
Permit is good fro Revolver and SA
New Hampshire has a policy of not recognising permits from states that won't recognise the N.H. permit
New Hampshire will recognise permits from states that recognise the N.H. permit
N.H. will not recognise non residents permits from anywhere
You can get a N.H. non resident permit it costs $100.00
However you must have a permit from your home state in order to get a N.H. Permit
The N.H. Permit resident is easy to get
pay about $20.00 for a background check
Turn in application and fee to town hall or local police dept
Prmit usually issued in a week from applying
no finger prints
no training required
Can get permit even if you have never fired a gun before
no pictures
License good for four years
Most New hampshire LEO don't like people that carry
LEO will harass you for carry with permit
Texas won't recognise N.H. permit because of no traning requirement and no picture
N.H. Permit is good in about 16 states
Permit is good fro Revolver and SA
New Hampshire has a policy of not recognising permits from states that won't recognise the N.H. permit
New Hampshire will recognise permits from states that recognise the N.H. permit
N.H. will not recognise non residents permits from anywhere
You can get a N.H. non resident permit it costs $100.00
However you must have a permit from your home state in order to get a N.H. Permit
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PracticalTactical
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Re: Texas CHL Reciprocity: A Different Perspective
Not sure who to tell about this, but Arizona also requires that anybody carrying there be 21 unless they open carry. They'll take a TX permit, but not for people under 21. The map does not reflect that.AggieMM wrote:And don't forget our map.TXlaw1 wrote:For clarity, are you saying Texas CHL holder CANNOT carry in Washington state?![]()
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Also, Arizona is a really good non-res permit to get (all you have to do is send a copy of your TX CHL and $60. It's as widely recognized as Florida, but you don't get Washington state with it. But you do get Nevada with an AZ permit now.
Re: Texas CHL Reciprocity: A Different Perspective
The map I see you quoted does show that there is a 21 yr old requirement for AZ. That's what the little black oval with a 21 in it represents. Not sure if the original source might have been updated since your post or not.PracticalTactical wrote: Not sure who to tell about this, but Arizona also requires that anybody carrying there be 21 unless they open carry. They'll take a TX permit, but not for people under 21. The map does not reflect that.
Also, Arizona is a really good non-res permit to get (all you have to do is send a copy of your TX CHL and $60. It's as widely recognized as Florida, but you don't get Washington state with it. But you do get Nevada with an AZ permit now.
Josh
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"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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Re: Texas CHL Reciprocity: A Different Perspective
I updated the map after practicaltactical posted the 21+ information, the link automatically updates. :)grim-bob wrote:The map I see you quoted does show that there is a 21 yr old requirement for AZ. That's what the little black oval with a 21 in it represents. Not sure if the original source might have been updated since your post or not.
Ryan
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Great map!! 
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knotquiteawake
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I really wish California would get their act together with their CHL program. Its totally arbitrary and up to the local agencies (as long as you meet the criteria). Where I lived in Southern California it was nearly impossible, where my parents live in a rural county its pretty easy if you can show ANY kind of cause, like my dad who owns a business and makes trips to the bank with cash deposits regularly. I guess thats the difference between "Shall Issue" and whatever it is that CA is doing?
Also visiting home, while great to visit family, leaves me feeling naked without being able to carry.
Also visiting home, while great to visit family, leaves me feeling naked without being able to carry.
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Re: Texas CHL Reciprocity: A Different Perspective
PracticalTactical wrote:Not sure who to tell about this, but Arizona also requires that anybody carrying there be 21 unless they open carry. They'll take a TX permit, but not for people under 21. The map does not reflect that.AggieMM wrote:And don't forget our map.TXlaw1 wrote:For clarity, are you saying Texas CHL holder CANNOT carry in Washington state?![]()
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Ryan
Also, Arizona is a really good non-res permit to get (all you have to do is send a copy of your TX CHL and $60. It's as widely recognized as Florida, but you don't get Washington state with it. But you do get Nevada with an AZ permit now.
I am a texas CHL holder under 21 and i have been trying so hard to find out if i can carry in VA i have called VA and they will not get back to me and i have called texas they said i can. And i have asked some CHL instructors and they said i cant. And posted on some forms and they said i cant. I cant seem to get a good answer i no this is a old form but would love for someone who is 100% sure if i can or cant to replay thanks. And i am military.
Re: Texas CHL Reciprocity: A Different Perspective
Texas and Virginia have full reciprocity. Info here http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... rocity.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; does not show Virginia to be a state that requires you to be 21 in order to carry on your states resident license. Additionally, there is no mention on this page from the Virginia State Police of being 21 other than they will not issue licenses to anyone under 21 http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Reciprocity.shtm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So, I find nothing that says you can't, but I would sure contact the Virginia State Police and talk to someone in their CCW section to get a solid answer.
And, this is NOT legal advice.
So, I find nothing that says you can't, but I would sure contact the Virginia State Police and talk to someone in their CCW section to get a solid answer.
And, this is NOT legal advice.
Keith
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Thanks very much!!!
Now if i can just get someone from VA to call me back with a answer
Now if i can just get someone from VA to call me back with a answer
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http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504 ... d+18.2-308" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Keith B wrote:Texas and Virginia have full reciprocity. Info here http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... rocity.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; does not show Virginia to be a state that requires you to be 21 in order to carry on your states resident license. Additionally, there is no mention on this page from the Virginia State Police of being 21 other than they will not issue licenses to anyone under 21 http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Reciprocity.shtm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A valid concealed handgun or concealed weapon permit or license issued by another state shall authorize the holder of such permit or license who is at least 21 years of age to carry a concealed handgun in the Commonwealth, provided (i) the issuing authority provides the means for instantaneous verification of the validity of all such permits or licenses issued within that state, accessible 24 hours a day, and (ii) except for the age of the permit or license holder and the type of weapon authorized to be carried, the requirements and qualifications of that state's law are adequate to prevent possession of a permit or license by persons who would be denied a permit in the Commonwealth under this section.
Re: Texas CHL Reciprocity: A Different Perspective
Well, there you have it; gotta be 21. I searched and couldn't find it. Thanks SO.smoothoperator wrote:http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504 ... d+18.2-308" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Keith B wrote:Texas and Virginia have full reciprocity. Info here http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... rocity.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; does not show Virginia to be a state that requires you to be 21 in order to carry on your states resident license. Additionally, there is no mention on this page from the Virginia State Police of being 21 other than they will not issue licenses to anyone under 21 http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Reciprocity.shtm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A valid concealed handgun or concealed weapon permit or license issued by another state shall authorize the holder of such permit or license who is at least 21 years of age to carry a concealed handgun in the Commonwealth, provided (i) the issuing authority provides the means for instantaneous verification of the validity of all such permits or licenses issued within that state, accessible 24 hours a day, and (ii) except for the age of the permit or license holder and the type of weapon authorized to be carried, the requirements and qualifications of that state's law are adequate to prevent possession of a permit or license by persons who would be denied a permit in the Commonwealth under this section.
Keith
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Re: Texas CHL Reciprocity: A Different Perspective
Great find, will update the reciprocity map soon......
Ryan
Ryan
Re: Texas CHL Reciprocity: A Different Perspective
I'm thinking of moving to New Hampshire and, therefore, have been researching their laws. In addition to the above:tommyg wrote:New Hampshire Permit to Carry
The N.H. Permit resident is easy to get
pay about $20.00 for a background check
Turn in application and fee to town hall or local police dept
Prmit usually issued in a week from applying
no finger prints
no training required
Can get permit even if you have never fired a gun before
no pictures
License good for four years
Most New hampshire LEO don't like people that carry
LEO will harass you for carry with permit
Texas won't recognise N.H. permit because of no traning requirement and no picture
N.H. Permit is good in about 16 states
Permit is good fro Revolver and SA
New Hampshire has a policy of not recognising permits from states that won't recognise the N.H. permit
New Hampshire will recognise permits from states that recognise the N.H. permit
N.H. will not recognise non residents permits from anywhere
You can get a N.H. non resident permit it costs $100.00
However you must have a permit from your home state in order to get a N.H. Permit
Open carry is completely legal with no permit.
Concealed carry requires a permit.
It is completely illegal to carry in your car - whether it is concealed or not - unless you have a NH concealed carry permit.
I haven't heard anything about NH police being hostile to people with a CHL.
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